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awtomatik Belial
Joined: 23 Jun 2009 Posts: 20
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 8:21 am Post subject: |
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Maniniwala ako sa mga tinatawag nila na mga "holy books"(i.e. Quran,Bible etc.) kung yan ay derektang bunga ng kalikasan,(through the natural process of reproduction), halimbawa yan ay napipitas sa isang puno ng kahoy(bunga) o di kaya sa isang itlog na napisa...ngunit malinaw na ang mga ito ay gawa lamang ng mga mahuhusay na manunulat noong mga nauna pang panahon at imprenta lang...
Pag-aralan ang kasaysayan, pabor at mahusay na kasangkapan ang relihiyon(lalo na ang Kristiyanismo) sa mga mananakop na bansa(colonizers,conquerors)...ngunit pag-aralan din maige ang mga nasakop na mga bansa sa basbas at binyag ng mga nabanggit na relihiyon isang malinaw na halimbawa na lamang ang Pilipinas: pag-aralan kung paano mag-isip ang mga may matataas na pinag-aralan natin na nalulukob sa impluwensiya ng Kristiyanismo na produkto nga ng ating edukasyong maka-kristiyano...masasabing mga 'educated derelicts' kanya naman ang bunga mga mahal kong kabayan ay lipunang lipos ng kurapsiyon, kaimoralan, kawalang dereksiyong politikal atpb atpb. |
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ronparel Belial
Joined: 06 Sep 2009 Posts: 4 Location: Qatar
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Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:56 pm Post subject: it's just you and me |
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I don't believe so. There is no evidence at all of a "God". Everything you've said is mere conjecture. What you say sounds more of mythology and legend to me. You're just mouthing whatever you've read or some other person has told you of the "truth". I must ask you to really really think about things that you've been told, or what your ancient books tell you, and with clear rational thinking, think for yourself, you and you alone with all the resources available to you. Then you will find out the simple truth that the whole purpose is to live a life of loving and giving. And that's enough once-in-a-lifetime-opportunity we don't want to waste thinking about the after-life, nirvana, etc. _________________ love is my religion |
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ayronik07 Belial
Joined: 07 Jan 2010 Posts: 3
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Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:51 pm Post subject: bible |
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who created the bible anyway?
i just call the bible as a christian mythology book |
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d-wish Belial

Joined: 20 Jan 2010 Posts: 5 Location: Nosgoth
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Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:23 am Post subject: |
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| angelfire101 wrote: | @TS, dude it's called Culture Diversity.
common sense tells me it is the same God worshiped and named differently due to culture and geographical barriers.
let the atheist mock, it's their job, God will pay them too. it's hard labor you know. |
i love it when theists lurk around atheist forums.....
"common sense tells me it is the same God worshiped and named differently due to culture and geographical barriers." ---- if it's the same god then why are they fighting against each other?? why would an all-powerful all-loving god allow his/her followers kill each other?? doesn't make sense to me.....
"God will pay them too" ------- what!?
"common sense tells me" ------- duuuuuude!!!!!
here's something for you to think about:
"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth."1
"Now the earth was formless and empty. Darkness was on the surface of the deep. God's Spirit was hovering over the surface of the waters."2
"God said, "Let there be light," and there was light."3
now, let's see....... god created the heavens and the earth..... IN COMPLETE DARKNESS!!!! to think he would create light first..... tsk tsk....  _________________ "Gods are fragile things; they may be killed by a whiff of science or a dose of common sense."
– Chapman Cohen |
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etana2012 Belial
Joined: 23 Jan 2010 Posts: 1 Location: Cagayan de Oro City
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Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 8:36 pm Post subject: religion |
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Hey theists,
Do you think religion and faith in a god or gods is the worst and highest form of slavery?
Is this a way to control mankind and let them submit totally to the whims of the elite which for the past thousand years dictated our way of life, create wars and manipulate the economy?
Isn't the creation of religion a way to divide us people and rule over us? History is replete with such evidences and proofs. Why are you still dumbs and ignorants?
Wake up guys!!! |
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gman Belial
Joined: 05 Mar 2010 Posts: 3
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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Emperor Constantine I more or less invented Christianity in about 313 A.D. when he saw the power that it had to control people. He did not really believe in it, but knew it would be a good tool to control, so he brought together all the priests, they formed a committee and wrote the Bible.
Being told that you must love and also fear God, and that there is no escape from this even after death is the worst form of dictatorship and totalitarianism. Even in North Korea where the people must praise little Kim from morning til night they at least get to escape this after death, unlike religion where it is for all eternity. |
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darklight_one Belial

Joined: 08 Apr 2010 Posts: 30 Location: Cavite
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Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:45 am Post subject: |
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Walang makakaalam sa ngayon kung totoo nga ba talagang may diyos, hindi natin masasabing may diyos ba o wala, hindi natin masasabi kung anong klaseng nilalang o bagay ito. Lahat ng diyos na sinasamba nating ay parang mga philosophers lamang noong unang panahon. Ang kanilang pakay lamang ay magkaroon ng kapayapaan ang mga tao. Pero mali ang paggamit ng karamihan sa atin ngayon kaya nagkakagulo. Pero naniniwala ako na merong lumikha sa atin, just think how big our universe is, baka nga di pa alam ng lumikha sa atin na nagawa niya tayo eh. Marami pa tayong hindi nalalaman tungkol sa mga pinanggalingan natin, at sa kasamaang palad imposible na talagang malaman pa. Kaya ang dapat natin pagtuunan ng pansin ay yung magiging future natin. _________________ "Religion's GOD doesn't exist, but I believe that there is such thing as the Creator" |
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darklight_one Belial

Joined: 08 Apr 2010 Posts: 30 Location: Cavite
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:30 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Maniniwala ako sa mga tinatawag nila na mga "holy books"(i.e. Quran,Bible etc.) kung yan ay derektang bunga ng kalikasan,(through the natural process of reproduction), halimbawa yan ay napipitas sa isang puno ng kahoy(bunga) o di kaya sa isang itlog na napisa...ngunit malinaw na ang mga ito ay gawa lamang ng mga mahuhusay na manunulat noong mga nauna pang panahon at imprenta lang...
Pag-aralan ang kasaysayan, pabor at mahusay na kasangkapan ang relihiyon(lalo na ang Kristiyanismo) sa mga mananakop na bansa(colonizers,conquerors)...ngunit pag-aralan din maige ang mga nasakop na mga bansa sa basbas at binyag ng mga nabanggit na relihiyon isang malinaw na halimbawa na lamang ang Pilipinas: pag-aralan kung paano mag-isip ang mga may matataas na pinag-aralan natin na nalulukob sa impluwensiya ng Kristiyanismo na produkto nga ng ating edukasyong maka-kristiyano...masasabing mga 'educated derelicts' kanya naman ang bunga mga mahal kong kabayan ay lipunang lipos ng kurapsiyon, kaimoralan, kawalang dereksiyong politikal atpb atpb. |
Pasensya na po kung medyo kokontrahin ko lang ng konti yung sinabi mo dito. Katulad mo rin ako, galit sa mga namumunong mapagsamantala, pero hindi ko sinisisi ang relihiyon, dahil sa tingin ko hindi na nya ito kasalanan. Meron lamang akong ipapabasa:
1 Peter 5:2 (New International Version)
2Be shepherds of God's flock that is under your care, serving as overseers—not because you must, but because you are willing, as God wants you to be; not greedy for money, but eager to serve;
Ephesians 5:5 (New International Version)
5For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person—such a man is an idolater—has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
Proverbs 29:4 (New International Version)
4 By justice a king gives a country stability,
but one who is greedy for bribes tears it down.
These are all written in the Christians holy bible. If these political/religion leaders are true christian, then they must obey what is said on the bible. Kaya naman hindi ko sinisisi ang religion o ang bibliya, dahil maganda ang hangarin nito para sa mga tao. Hindi ito ang dapat nating sisihin. _________________ "Religion's GOD doesn't exist, but I believe that there is such thing as the Creator" |
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mryosso Astaroth
Joined: 12 Apr 2010 Posts: 76 Location: Quezon City
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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| The bible is filled with genocide, rape, cruelty, murder and injustice. Please do not cherry pick it. I will give you a thought, your god which I presume the biblical one tries to give his creations a book which spawned 11000+ (estimate) christian sects to me is such high level incompetence. I can send an email to hundreds of people which likely most will now its meaning, while the god of the bible can't. |
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darklight_one Belial

Joined: 08 Apr 2010 Posts: 30 Location: Cavite
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Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:18 am Post subject: |
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Yes because the bible is also a book of history. If the author live within the barbaric age and the people around him are full with brutal barbarous savage act, then the authors way of thought for punishing the sinners is through brutality. If the author think of an easy way of disciplining people in that barbaric age, do you really think they would listen/scare to do bad things? _________________ "Religion's GOD doesn't exist, but I believe that there is such thing as the Creator" |
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mryosso Astaroth
Joined: 12 Apr 2010 Posts: 76 Location: Quezon City
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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You say you are not christian and yet you defend the bible. Which has contributed more to morality today judeo/christian superstitions or non-religious groups/persons like?
- Abraham Lincoln (slavery)
- Women Suffrage (Sexual equality)
- Gandhi (Religious Wars)
- Buffet and Gates (Charity) |
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darklight_one Belial

Joined: 08 Apr 2010 Posts: 30 Location: Cavite
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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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Are you sure this people has no influence with religion? How about their parents or their parent parents or the one who told them that slavery, religious wars is not good? Because every one of us have an influence with religion that reflects to our personalities and behavior. _________________ "Religion's GOD doesn't exist, but I believe that there is such thing as the Creator" |
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