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A Bible Forum that depicts the numerous horrors committed by the Jewish "God of Love" in the most "sacred" scripture of all time---the Bible. Learn some of the things you never heard in church.

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Here's my own share taken from http://exchristian.net/exchristian/2002/09/virgin-midianites.php

THE VIRGIN MIDIANITES

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William F Henness [wildbillh@winco.net]

One of the worse stories found in the Bible is in Num. 31. Twelve thousand armed men, under Moses' leadership, attacked the Midianites. They killed all the males and burned all their dwellings. But they saved all the females alive, until Moses heard about it. Moses promptly commanded all the male children be killed, but all the females were spared who had not had intercourse.

"Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the female children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves." (Num. 31:17,1

Now these females were not all children, for in verse 35, it gives the number of virgins.

"And thirty and two thousand persons in all, of WOMEN that had not known man by lying with him." (v. 35)

Now, my question is, how did the soldiers determine the virgins from the non virgins? By a physical exam? There is no other way. Little girl babies and very young girls would naturally be assumed to be virgins, but v. 18 says "but all the female children, that have not known a man by lying with him," then there were the virgin women (v.35.)

Try to visualize the event. Some of the young girls would be kicking and screaming as two or three young soldiers held her down and visually checked for an intact hymen. Perhaps some finger probing was necessary. If they found not a hymen, they would promptly cut her throat or run a spear through her. They found 32,000 virgin children and women.

I think that this physical check would cause sexual arousal in most of the soldiers, however after several hundred checks it probably didn't.

What about the little girls, or big girls, who had fallen and ruptured their hymen? They were killed on the spot, because it looked like they had had intercourse.

Webster's says; "hymen, the thin mucous membrane that USUALLY covers part of the opening of the vagina in a virgin." Pretty gruesome event.

There were regulations for prisoners in wartime also.


"And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire for her, that thou wouldest have her as thy wife, then thou shalt bring her home to thine house; ... and after that thou shalt go in unto her, and be her husband, and she shall be thy wife. And it shall be, if thou have no delight in her, then thou shalt let her go where she will. But thou shalt not sell her at all for money; thou shalt not make merchandise of her, because thou hast humbled her." (Deut. 21:11-14)

The next time you read the account in Num. 31:17,18,35, try to imagine the scene, then multiply that by 31,999 and you have the entire picture. Also See: GOD is a Sexist and In the Name of the LORD

The Truth Will Set You Free!

Ciao!
Rai


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[d-wish]

Hello blueraven nice passages!! brings out the best in the bible..... HAHAHAHAHAHHAAH

HERE IS A GOOD ONE:
II Kings 2:23-25 (KJV)

"And he (Elisha) went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head. [23] And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them. [24] And he went from thence to mount Carmel, and from thence he returned to Samaria." [25]


two she bears mauled 42 kids??
here is the NIV version of it (above is the king james version)


"From there Elisha went up to Bethel. As he was walking along the road, some youths came out of the town and jeered at him. 'Go on up, you baldhead!' they said. 'Go on up, you baldhead!' He turned around, looked at them and called down a curse on them in the name of the Lord. Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the youths."

bronze age men sure is brutal...... oh, and also the god they created..... cheers!! i kinda like this thread man!!

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GOD is owned.
nice passage,haha. can you give more?
I want more.haha

[bong]

one dont think that it is appropriate to discuss the bible if one has questions of its authenticity.

why are ones going to iluminate some of the bibles phrases if it is not but a mythology and an amalgam of self inuendos of personal beliefs and principles of a particular race that needed such form of ethos to survive in there time. in there time..

though one respects there artistry as to the story tellers way of convincing its reader, to believe the belief he was in at that time.

how can ones be of any debate and discuss of thing that doesn't exist.. by disbelieving something it means one is negating, if one is negating one is just confirmming its existence by negating..

but by trying to look at it as a storyline a mythology, ones are confirming its lack of face and capability of being true to its and ones subjective reality..
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